Frequently Asked Questions
Every product at 7K Roping is designed and professionally engineered in-house, so when we say we stand behind our work, it really is our work. If you have questions about our dummies, sleds, saddles or other products, or if you have questions about buying direct from us, you will likely find the answer below.
If you still have questions, please don’t hesitate to Contact Us. We’re always happy to help!
What is included with the Something Dummy?
The Something Dummy comes with two sets of black, solid DuraHorns (long and short) and a horn wrap (colors vary). The dummy body also has horn nubs that can be roped without horns for super short horn, muley, or calf roping practice.
What size are the horns?
Long horns are 33.5” tip to tip. Short horns are 28” tip to tip. Without the horns, the nubs measure 13” across. Optional SuperHorns range from 35” to 56” (sold separately).
Since the Something Dummy is lighter and more portable than your competitors, will it tip over?
Nope! The Something Dummy is designed with a flanged base to give it a lower center of gravity that allows us to make it lighter but just as stable. No cow tipping!
Will the horns stay in place?
Definitely! The Something DuraHorns have a slotted design that locks them into position. Each horn may be rotated to 6 different settings. A simple set screw keeps them from falling out – no rubber bands, wires, etc.
If I order a Something Dummy now, can I order just the sled later to add to my dummy?
Absolutely! Our Something Steer Total Training System can be purchased all at once or you can order the dummy first and add the sled later. Build your training system all at once or as you’re ready. Also, be sure to check out the Something Hocks Trifecta System to add to your program for heeling practice and warmup on the go!
Where is the Something Dummy made?
Proud to be made in the USA!
Is the Something Dummy durable? Can I leave it outside?
Constructed from extremely durable molded plastic, the Something Dummy is built to last! No need to worry about cracking or material failure as in some other dummies.
What does the Something Steer Training System include?
The Something Steer Total Training System includes:
- Something Sled
- Removable Something Dummy to be used on the sled or on the ground
- Two sets of black DuraHorns
- Authentic Horn wrap
- Bad Handle Bungee Tow Rope
- Brass Quick Release Tow Ring
- Something Hocks with solid DuraHocks legs. Something Hocks can be removed for use with the Something Hocks Hitch adapter or the Trifecta Hitch, Fence and Ground unit sold separately.
Do the horns collapse?
No! Collapsible horns are lazy header’s training, and don’t give you the proper head, horn and body anatomy of a real steer or the action of roping a horn wrap. They also can’t offer you a variable horn size and position combinations for total training. But even worse, if your training stops at your rope popping off, YOU ARE CHEATING YOURSELF AND YOUR HORSE. Your training should include:
- The tension of the rope being pulled away from you as you are trying to take a dallying.
- The realistic jerk on you and your horse as the steer hits the end of the rope.
- The practice of pulling the steer by the horns for your heeler.
- The focus of watching your steer AND your partner while controlling your horse and the steer.
- The routine of facing quickly and completely for a successful run and a quick flag.
If you are going to take the time to train, don’t cheat your program, yourself or your horse just because you don’t want to take your rope off.
How do the towing options work?
You can tow the sled several ways:
- The Bad Handle Bungee (BHB): Connect the Bungee to the CLOSED chain link on the front of the sled and to your UTV. The BHB makes the Something Sled move more naturally with minor lunges, jerks, bounces and unpredictable movements. Other sleds measure their stretch in inches…. we measure in feet! The Bad Handle Bungee is approximately 9 feet long and stretches to approximately 18 feet long reducing the stress and strain on you, your horse and your UTV.
- Quick Release Ring: Simply tie your own rope to your UTV and to the brass ring. Slide the brass ring on the OPEN hook on the front of the sled. The header can now rope the horns, dally and go left similar to a real run. This allows the header and heeler to work TOGETHER on a realistic practice run!
- No tow vehicle available? Just rope the horns horseback, dally and go. Get the feel for pulling the steer while moving forward, side passing, or backing up. Use it for warmup, cool down, or strength and agility conditioning without too much stress on your horse. When towing by the horns, there’s no yelling at the UTV driver to stop, slow down or speed up. You can work on getting in sync with your horse to tow at a constant speed for your heeler, you can stop to make adjustments, talk to your heeler or have a talkin’ to with your horse and go again. Perfect for training young and seasoned horses (and ropers) alike!
Does it mechanically hop or swing?
No, Something does not hop, but for a reason. The Something Steer is designed to be the easiest sled to rope AND the hardest sled to rope all in the same training package. Hopping sleds are repetitive and easy to cheat, and once you get the timing down (which is pretty basic on a sled), there’s really not much else to work on. And despite what other sled companies say about their engineering consultants (Baylor?), steers generally don’t hop exactly the same every time with their feet the exact same distance apart!
With Something, you can customize your training from the easiest to the most difficult heeling shots:
- Start with leg settings which are easy to catch - high and symmetrical - so the roper and horse gain confidence.
- Progress to more difficult settings such as right leg back, left leg forward (which is common among live cattle).
- Advance to the most difficult, nasty settings such as outside corner or inside blind shot with wide leg spread, or set to switch mode which allows the legs to swing from outside in at the corner.
With over 150 settings of leg combinations alone, Something Hocks can be set as easy or as difficult as you want, and will make you throw a different loop to catch a steer that’s not in perfect position, which is more often than not… just like when you’re at a real live roping!
Something Hocks CAN be set to swing freely - either one or both legs - but be cautioned, they are THE MOST difficult to rope in free swinging mode.
What tools do I need to make sled, dummy, horns and hocks adjustments in the arena?
None! With simple locking pins, every adjustment can be made quickly right in the arena between runs without tools. Raise or lower the hocks, kick them out one way or the other, lock the legs independently in any position, tilt the head right, left or down, rotate the horns, raise or lower the dummy, adjust the placement of the wheel and switch between the tow ring and bad handle bungee – all within seconds. No tools needed!
How easily does the system come apart for transport?
Simply release the latch and slide the dummy out, remove a couple of locking pins and voila! Your training system breaks down to four parts that can be easily thrown in the front of your trailer, the back of your truck, or even the back seat if you want. It’s simple, quick and no tools needed.
How does the dummy attach?
When we originally designed the Something Dummy we made a flanged base to work with our eventual sled design. This flanged base allows you to slide the dummy right in to the sled brackets and lock it in place with the built in cable clamp. No super strength needed to lift a heavy dummy up and over the sled – the Something Dummy just slides and locks right in.
What size UTV or 4-wheeler do I need to pull the sled?
The Something Sled is designed lighter not only for the sake of portability, safer dallying and horse training, but also so that you can use a smaller four wheeler or UTV. Depending on how deep the sand is in your arena, even a 200cc four wheeler is more than enough power.
Why is the Bad Handle Bungee attached to the clips with knots?
The bungee is attached to the clips by knots that are tied in a way that they tighten as there is tension put on them. This method provides the most secure and safe attachment.
Since the sled is lighter, will it tip over?
The Something Sled is extremely stable and nearly impossible to tip over when pulling with a UTV. The lower center of gravity gives it superb stability and the extended right leg acts as a counter weight at the corners. When pulling your sled with the Bad Handle Bungee, you will get lunges, jerks, bounces and unpredictable movements just like a real steer, but your sled will be extremely stable. It won’t tip over!
One of the coolest features of the Something Sled is the quick release tow ring that allows a header to rope the horns and release the sled from the UTV for a realistic practice run with the header and heeler working together or horse training on rating and positioning. This feature is a training aspect for you and your horse that demands more focus and attention to proper technique. When pulling the sled by the horns, you need to handle it just as you would a live steer. If you don’t handle a real steer correctly, it might fall over and definitely won’t be in position or ready for your heeler.
The same is true with the Something Sled. If you are too tight when you dally and put tension on the Steer, or if you go left at an aggressive rate, you can tip the sled over.
The goal of the quick release is to teach the rider and the horse to handle a steer in a controlled manner through the corner. With that being said, while you’re learning the correct handle or teaching yourself or your horse, the sled may tip over. If it does, just push it back over, or use your rope to pull it right back up and be on your way again. Something can handle it and will be patient while you work out the kinks.
I already own a Something Dummy. Can I order just the Sled to go with it?
You sure can! If you already own the Something Dummy, you can order just the Something Sled which will include the Bad Handle Bungee and tow ring to complete your Something Steer Total Training System. The Something Sled is also compatible with the Speed Steer.
Are there any other training accessories available?
Want even more training options?
Heading: Having trouble keeping your loop open or getting your tip around or just want to add a fun challenge? We offer Something SuperHorns - real, natural longhorns to give you that extreme heading experience! They will not only impress your friends but really will help you learn to keep that loop open and bring the tip around! These suckers are not for the easily intimidated! Sizes range up to 56” tip to tip!
Heeling: Headers aren’t the only ones who should be able to take their practice dummy down the road! The Something Hocks Hitch attachment allows you to take the sled hocks with you and rope them from the hitch receiver of your truck or UTV. Or get the complete heeling package on-the-go with the Something Hocks Trifecta System. Trifecta includes the Hitch Attachment as well as a Ground Stand and Fence Hangers so you can practice or warmup up in the parking lot, on the fence in the warm up arena, on your trailer, or the back of your truck or UTV.
Sled Training: As mentioned in the previous question, if you are working with a beginning header who needs a little extra time learning how to correctly handle a steer or someone who just feels the need for speed, you can add the Something Dolly Wheels. These two additional wheels added to the front of your sled will be just what you need for that increased stability.
Is there a warranty on the sled?
We stand behind every product we sell! The metal sled parts are guaranteed against manufacturers’ defects or breakage with normal use for 5 years (original owner with receipt required). Excludes paint/powder coating, rubber bungees, tire and tow ring. If there’s ever a problem with parts, have some questions or just need some help or tips for using the sled --- give us a call. We’ll be here.
Where is the Something Sled made?
Proud to be made in the USA!
7K Saddles & Dally Post
How is the Dally Post installed on a saddle with a conventional horn?
The Dally Post is installed by removing the old saddle horn and replacing it with the Dally Post per these instructions (PDF). Your best bet is to find a local saddle maker to help you out. Most saddle makers have experience replacing saddle horns. Prices for replacement generally range from $100 to $200.
How do I get a new saddle with a Dally Post?
If you know which brand of saddle you are looking to purchase, simply ask that maker to make or order your tree with a Dally Post. We can ship your Dally Post directly to your saddle maker or the tree maker. We’ve had Martin, Cactus, Coats, and many other saddle brands either retrofitted or purchased with a Dally Post.
Does 7K Roping make saddles with the Dally Post?
Not quite yet, but we’re working on it.
How long does a NevaWrap Last?
For headers, the NevaWrap can last at least a couple of years or longer. If you’re a pickup man pulling heavy animals, you can expect a shorter lifespan. For heelers, depending on how often and hard you dally, the NevaWrap can last anywhere from a few months to several years.
What makes the NevaWrap so durable?
Most of the wear on the NevaWrap occurs at the left base where the rope makes initial contact. The symmetrical design allows you to rotate it four times, plus you can turn it over, for a total of eight wearing surfaces.
Does the NevaWrap require any special maintenance?
Not really. However, like all rubber products, it will eventually dry out, at least on the surface. If you have an extra NevaWrap, you should keep it stored in the plastic bag it came in. If you know you aren’t going to rope for several months, you might want to remove the Nevawrap from your saddle and put it in a ziplock bag.
Where do I get a replacement NevaWrap?
Will a Dally Post and NevaWrap save me money?
Yes! The savings on rubber wraps and kinks and burn on your ropes could save you hundreds of dollars or more.
What keeps the NevaWrap from turning?
Every NevaWrap has an internal aluminum sleeve that makes it impossible to rotate about the Dally Post when you dally, even on the heaviest of livestock.
What keeps the cap from popping off?
The cap is secured to the base of the Dally Post with a heavy duty stainless steel industrial grade ball lock pin with four locking balls. There are two sets of locking holes in the post as a safety precaution. The cap will not come off unintentionally.
Can I accidentally release the cap if I hit the top of the horn?
No. The push button on the locking pin is recessed in the cap to prevent accidental release. Even if for some reason the pin is depressed, upward force is still required to remove the cap and NevaWrap.
Is the NevaWrap different for heading and heeling?
The NevaWrap comes in two classifications – All-Around and Shut Down. The All-Around is multi-purpose for headers and heelers, and is slightly less soft and more durable than the Shut Down. The Shut Down is softer and provides more traction for a slightly better grip, particularly for heeling, with a slightly shorter longevity.
Does the Dally Post come with a warranty?
Of course. The Dally Post is warrantied from manufacturers defects for 5 years from the date of purchase. We do not warrant saddles or trees that are retrofitted with the Dally Post, as we have no control over the installation process.
What makes Revolution Ropes different than other ropes?
Our patent pending Tip Xclerator technology that comes with every rope allows for maximum control of your swing and delivery and optimum action, which will increase your catch percentage.
Are there any rules against having a weighted tip?
Revolution Ropes have been used to win 3 go-rounds at the National Finals Rodeo, as well as National Shoot-Out Championships in the USTRC. Neither the PRCA nor the USTRC have rules prohibiting ropes with increased weight or body via a fourth strand, central core, or Tip Xcelerator. Nor are there any rules prohibiting covering the rope with a material that increases performance and longevity - such as wax, rawhide, plastic burners, or a Tip Xclerator.
How will a weighted tip help my roping?
There are so many ways:
- Better control of your swing
- Fewer wave-offs
- More accurate delivery
- Faster loop feed
- More curl
- Longer lasting rope
- Increased tip follow through
- More clean (2 feet) catches
- Fewer slipped legs
- More distance
- Less bounce
- Better tip visibility
How much weight does the Tip Xcelerator add?
Actually, the Tip Xcelerator weighs less than an ounce. And the total loop weight of a 3-strand Revolution Rope weighs less than a 4-strand loop. The reason a Revolution Rope will outperform any conventional rope is because the Tip Xcelerator is positioned at the tip and leading edge of the loop, where the force of the added weight is multiplied.
Will a Revolution Rope outlast conventional ropes?
Yes. A rope starts to feel dead when it starts to break down and fray. The Tip Xcelerator will extend the useful life of the rope by 20% or longer, because the weight of the Tip Xcelerator gives the rope life and keeps it from feeling dead. The Tip Xcelerator also protects the tip and prevents it from fraying. The Tip Xcelerator will also typically outlast the rope body.
Do I have to change the way I throw to use a Revolution Rope?
No, although it will take a little work on the dummy and a few practice runs to get comfortable with the additional feel and control of the tip. Revolution Ropes are designed to take advantage of the natural action of the weighted tip, which means you can concentrate less on creating the necessary action to keep your loop on, and more on the location of your delivery. Give yourself some time to get used to your new rope. Like anything revolutionary, it may take a little getting used to. For information on using a Revolution Rope, explore our resources and video demos here.
How do I know what size loop to order?
We have accumulated enough data to know that the majority of headers deliver a #4 or #5 loop, and the majority of heelers throw a #7 loop. Calf ropers and breakaway ropers throw a #2, 3 or 4 loop. If you know that you swing a particularly large or small loop, you may order accordingly. If you are uncertain and want to make sure you are ordering the rope that is right for you, you need only a couple of simple measurements to calculate your tip location. Please click here for instructions on how to take these measurements and determine your Revolution Rope loop size.
What if my loop size is larger or smaller than the standard loop sizes, or what if I want more or less weight in the tip?
You can custom order your rope to any desired specifications: specific loop size, more/less weight, shorter/longer weight length. Just tell us and we’ll give you a quote to make it happen.
How did you come up with the idea to put weight in the tip of the rope?
The concept of weighting the tip of a rope has been around for at least 20 years. In fact, there were weighted tip heeling ropes made in the 80’s. Today, many rope makers claim that their rope has more weight in the tip. What they actually mean is that they combined different fibers to make the entire rope and loop heavier or more dense. Revolution Ropes analyzed this concept to the extreme and engineered the precise amount of weight, in the exact location that would optimize the control and action of the loop without weighting the entire rope.
What is a Revolution Tab Band?
We use reusable Revolution Tab Bands instead of cheap twist ties to package all of our ropes. Tab bands keep your rope coiled up tight, are easy to get on and off, and can be used over and over to keep your ropes property coiled. These are provided at no additional charge.